Originally by: Samiloth Justinian

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Originally by: Alex Harumichi

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Nonsense. Forcing (some) ECM ships to get in closer just puts then vaguely in the same ballpark as the rest. Guess what? Other races have had to deal with limited range on ewar since forever.

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Yes, but A) The other recons really need a buff, nerfing the falcon will not magically fix other ships. B) All do better damage then the falcon. Some of them are specialized in either increasing the damage on the ships they affect, or holding them in place, preventing them from escaping. Someone jammed by a falcon can always flee if necessary.

Originally by: Alex Harumichi

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"Falcons don't have tank" because people don't fit tank on their Falcons. I'm forced to fit tank on my Lachesis and Arazu, same goes for our Rapier/Huginn/Curse pilots. Those ships don't have any more actual tanking ability than the Falcon does. Why should the Caldari ECM boats be the only ones being able to play in "safe mode"?

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But the ships you are talking about have mods that affect all races equally, no? It isnÆt like you need a specific webber for each race.

Originally by: Alex Harumichi

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Sure, if you give Gallente 200+km range damps, Minmatar 200+km ranged webs, and Amarr 200+km range tracking disruptors, then we can talk.

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Buffing the other recons is needed IMO. Just keep away from buffing warp scrambler range since that actually will cause people to die horribly with little chance of escaping. A jammer will always leave them the option to flee. You surely must understand (I hope) that making the falcon useless will in no way make your ships better, right?

Originally by: Alex Harumichi

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Before that: welcome to the club the rest of us are in. Tank or die. The Flavor of the Month Express has left the station.

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And that is what this game is slowly turning into. DPS, tank and F-button up the primary. PvP get less and less options. Dim-witted players that canÆt figure out how to deal with things that require more then ctrl-click and F-button the primary whine and whine until a nerf make more of the game into a game for simpletons.

If people canÆt figure out how to deal with falcons, then they shouldnÆt really involve themselves in PvP. It should be player vs player, not dps/tank vs dps/tank. Soon we will be able to play Eve in EFT, just clicking auto-resolve on make-believe battles and see who wins.

No poster in this thread is to be blamed for that sad direction, it is CCPÆs fault. And the tragedy of it all is that they will sit there and scratch their heads, wondering why people only blob more and more, and be oblivious to the fact that the options how to wage war have been taken away over the years just to please players that canÆt be bothered with figuring out different tactics to deal with problems on the battlefield.

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